Barely Coherent

The Myth about drunk driving.

Because Kent told me to. Here is a post detailing our discussion about drunk driving. The rest of the discussion will be in comments.

Not sure how you would have to measure prohibition for it to be a success.

• More deaths attributed to alcohol during prohibition than before and after
• More alcoholics during prohibition than before and after
• More violence during prohibition than before and after.
• Massive criminal enterprises corrupting law enforcement and our legal system.

[Kent] Zig has data the other way--except it did encourage some gangs.

[Lee] Zig is wrong.  VERY wrong. It is illegal to be drunk and drive, not to drink and drive (as much as MADD would disagree with me).

[Kent] Yes, I know that. But here is the chain: most people who go to a bar drink, the designated driver is a myth, most people who drink , then drive 5 minutes later are over the limit. Besides, if you want to find drunk people, look for them there----or you will find them crashed into the back of a car stalled on the side of the road--I am getting really tired of those.

You are correct; they are not serious about stopping drunk driving. The DUI industry would lose money if they did. Accidents attributed to alcohol have been relatively constant for years (even as we lower the BAC limits). Yet every year you hear MADD talk about the crisis is getting worse and that we need to lower the BAC limit. The ARRESTS are increasing every year.

[Kent] Madd needs your money--there are two kinds of members: true believers, and those making it into a career (same with the American Cancer Society by the way)

Our current DUI laws are punishing the wrong offenders. By far most accidents are caused by those that have a blood alcohol content at or above .15 yet most states are at .08 and some are pushing to a lower limit (I seem to have lost the link to the study of accidents in CA regarding this). This does nothing but turn what should be a public safety issue into a money making enterprise for the government. Also look at WHO is causing the accidents, by far it is repeat offenders. But if we actually target the people causing the problem then there would be less money.

[Kent] You have a point in the same as we discussed yesterday. If we lower the limit to .00000000001 who will it affect. Not the really drunk because they are already over the limit. Prosecutors and judges (Craig Watkins and his gang feel sorry for the DUI repeats because they need to get to their jobs.

Google Bomb

--AZ-Sen: Jon Kyl
--AZ-01: Rick Renzi
--AZ-05: J.D. Hayworth
--CA-04: John Doolittle
--CA-11: Richard Pombo
--CA-50: Brian Bilbray
--CO-04: Marilyn Musgrave
--CO-05: Doug Lamborn
--CO-07: Rick O'Donnell
--CT-04: Christopher Shays
--FL-13: Vernon Buchanan
--FL-16: Joe Negron
--FL-22: Clay Shaw
--ID-01: Bill Sali
--IL-06: Peter Roskam
--IL-10: Mark Kirk
--IL-14: Dennis Hastert
--IN-02: Chris Chocola
--IN-08: John Hostettler
--IA-01: Mike Whalen
--KS-02: Jim Ryun
--KY-03: Anne Northup
--KY-04: Geoff Davis
--MD-Sen: Michael Steele
--MN-01: Gil Gutknecht
--MN-06: Michele Bachmann
--MO-Sen: Jim Talent
--MT-Sen: Conrad Burns
--NV-03: Jon Porter
--NH-02: Charlie Bass
--NJ-07: Mike Ferguson
--NM-01: Heather Wilson
--NY-03: Peter King
--NY-20: John Sweeney
--NY-26: Tom Reynolds
--NY-29: Randy Kuhl
--NC-08: Robin Hayes
--NC-11: Charles Taylor
--OH-01: Steve Chabot
--OH-02: Jean Schmidt
--OH-15: Deborah Pryce
--OH-18: Joy Padgett
--PA-04: Melissa Hart
--PA-07: Curt Weldon
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Rep. Delay's 1.5 Billion Pork Barrel

Mysteriously inserted AFTER the committee's deliberation had ended.

What happened to that Contract With America? I did not realize there was clause that it was only valid until they actually wielded power.

Saving Private Cheney

Excellent Satire

This is what we have been telling you &*$&*(#&* idiots for 3.5 years

of course we get branded as traitors, cowards, and even ...liberals

Not a war on terror but a global struggle against extremism

Money quote of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The solution is "more diplomatic, more economic, more political than it is military," he said.

No shit, really? Of course during the recent election if someone suggested that, they were vilefied.

Join the rest of us in the 21st Century please

Man offered job. Job recended because man would be a woman by the time the job starts.

The best part, the guy had put in 25 years in the Army.

Heroin causes AIDS?

Article title:

Experts Say Afghan Heroin Spreading AIDS

While most people with more than 2 working brain cells would realize that is not even close to being true, you had to read the article in order to get the story that the increase of drug use in those that do not have access to a needle exchange program is causing an increase in AIDS cases.

Fucktards.

Stupid State Nannies

This is stupid.

It defines 'problem drinking' as

For men this means more than 14 drinks per week, or more than four drinks on any occasion.

More than FOUR drinks on any occasion??!?. That means if someone watching a football game has a beer during each quarter and a beer during halftime, they are then defined as a problem drinker.

These nannies wonder why people do not take their 'studies' seriously. Has someone told them that most of the time the stuff they come up with is just plain stupid?

Choice Quote from Rush Limbaugh

While you listen to the many conservatives whine about how Rush is getting treated you can think of this.

"I warned you about this ever-broadening interpretation of the so-called right to privacy. It's not a 'right' specifically enumerated in the Constitution or Bill of Rights."
Rush Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh.com
August 22nd, 2003

So really Rush it is your own damn fault. Every time you are some other person called for a greater war on drugs you nibbled away at YOUR OWN RIGHTS. Now you are reaping what you had sowed.

And yes I am relishing you having these problems, it is always nice to see individuals be the victim of their own wrong-headed policies.

Politcal Cartoon on Eminent Domain

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